Hypnosis without trance, waking Hypnosis, phenomena without formal induction.
Whatever you choose to call it, it all comes down to suggestion. I have gone on record several times as saying that the whole closed eyes/sleep/deepener elements of Hypnosis are all about management: Setting a frame complete with appropriate cues for the Hypnotic session.
It just so happens that this frame is in keeping with most people’s deeply held beliefs or perceptions about Hypnosis and so it really happens for them. Ask anybody over the age of about seven what they think Hypnosis is and you’ll see I’m right. (In a later post to this blog, I’ll be speculating about where these beliefs come from.)
Now, an English Hypnotist named James Rolph seems to be making this whole “Hypnosis without Trance” his “thing” and I have to say he’s doing a good job of it. He has a blog, a newsletter and now, it seems, a live workshop.
Well, I don’t know whether James and his followers are aware, but another guy known as The Amazing Kreskin already made it HIS thing in the mid 70s. In the 90s, Kreskin offered $50,000 to anyone who could prove the existence of a trance state and even defended this in court in Burlington County 1996. But in spite of this, Kreskin still does a form of Hypnosis too.
See James in action in this video here:
Now see Kreskin in action in this video (especially from about 3 minutes onwards:)
Suggestion. No formal induction, no deepeners, no trance state.
There is however, one big difference between the approaches they each use:
James’ approach is the more permissive of the two. He requires some kind of buy-in on the part of the subject and this, in my opinion, is where his set-up, the clever language and techniques become important. James, I believe is from an NLP background, so no real surprises there. But the subject has to believe that phenomena without formal induction is plausible (to use James’ expression.)
Kreskin’s approach, on the other hand is authoritative and domineering and so he gets the job done much quicker. He doesn’t appear to give a damn about the deeply held beliefs of the subject or whether they find it plausible. He even uses an argumentative approach at one point to better bombard the subject with suggestions.
Overall, an extreme example of Indirect versus Direct approaches.
Kreskin is very vocal about his own beliefs about suggestion and Hypnosis but ironically, what James doesn’t seem to be factoring in here is his OWN belief. He firmly believes he can achieve all kinds of phenomena without trance. He even has a documented approach and the analysis of all kinds of experiments to support this belief (sounds like an anatomy of belief to me) so when he does his set-up and delivers his suggestions, he subconsciously communicates this (sometimes directly) to the subjects and it’s partly BECAUSE of this, his suggestions work. This is almost exactly the same “plausibility” he discusses in relation to the subject’s belief in one of his videos.
If it’s plausible to the Hypnotist, it stands to reason it has more chance of working.
So in conclusion, do I believe there can be Hypnosis Without Trance? Absolutely yes.
However, James Rolph’s approach isn’t the only way of achieving this. I have shown the polar opposite of his approach which means there must be plenty of room for approaches in between.
There’s more than one way to Kreskin a cat!
Personally, the whole eyes closed/sleep/deepener approach is what works best and what is easiest for me in the context I usually perform. But that’s only because it doesn’t require changing/influencing the majority of people’s beliefs like James’ approach does and while it is as simple and as quick as Kreskin’s approach, it doesn’t require an overly authoritarian/domineering approach like that displayed by the truly amazing Kreskin.







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November 25th, 2009
A powerful post Reg! Its easy to see how, given an authority figure shouting at you, you might well respond to their “suggestions”. I’m not sure I’d want to see what happens to people who don’t respond! It was bad enough watching those who didn’t respond fast enough get an ear lashing!
Fascinating and somehow disappointing to discover that shouting at someone can get them to do what you want. Oh wait… My Mrs does that to me all the time…
November 25th, 2009
I accept Kreskin’s approach might not suit you Ben!
But in reality, it’s not the shouting that gets the job done.
During the Hypnotic process, there’s a point where the Hypnotist’s intent converges with the subject’s expectancy and phenomena occurs as a result of suggestion.
Ironically, if you think about it, you could view “Induction” as just another waking Hypnosis phenomenon!
November 25th, 2009
Hi Reg
Glad to see that you are enjoying the Hypnosis Without Trance stuff! I do know of Kreskin and totally love his work.
I also agree that the belief on the part of the hypnotist is pretty important – if you doubt, the subject will doubt (usually). Spot on.
Many Thanks
James
November 29th, 2009
Hi Reg.
Nice blog! Great post!
I never saw The Amazing Kreskin in action before. Very impressive. Almost spooky.
I’ve been following Jame’s Rolph’s blog for a few weeks myself. I even tried his hand-stick technique at a full table in a crowded café with great success. It’s a fascinating phenomenon.
I very much enjoyed your comparison of the two diametrically opposed approaches to no-induction hypnotic phenomena. Do you feel any conflict at all in presenting Kreskin, who emphatically discounts the existence of hypnosis, in a forum that basically supports the exact opposite?
Best of luck with the new blog! It’s off to a smashing start!
Cheers.
VelvetMallet
http://www.ChampionMindSkills.com
December 1st, 2009
Hi VelvetMallet!
Thanks for your comment.
Yes. I do feel some conflict – even a good deal of downright hypocrisy in presenting Kreskin here. That’s precisely what makes this field so interesting!
I can discuss these things here, comment on the beliefs of others, question my own beliefs, then get in my car and drive right down the road to get paid to Hypnotise a room full of people. (You’ve given me an idea for my next blog post…)
If you click through the Kreskin video to Youtube, you’ll see one of the comments there is mine. I can’t say it much better a year on and still stand by this:
‘IMO when Kreskin says there’s no such thing as hypnosis, he means there’s no such thing as the mysterious trance state some hypnotists speak of in traditional definitions.
It’s the definition that’s incorrect.
It’s ALL suggestion. There are many of us hypnotists who strongly agree with that statement.
Kreskin shows what we call “hypnotic intent” brilliantly here and, by my definition, he is demonstrating hypnosis.
He even uses the word “hypnotic.” ‘
December 2nd, 2009
Hi. Yes, I see what you mean.
VM
December 9th, 2009
Interesting, but neither James or Kreskin’s approach would have any effect on me. Nothing like this ever works on me, although I’m always willing and hoping it will. I’m sure both of these gentlemen have had people who do not respond at all. I would be one of them, for sure.
January 20th, 2010
Mark, I do hope we meet someday. I am not arrogant enough to say that I could definitely hypnotize you. But I am certain enough to say that I would love to give it a go. I have dropped a number of people who looked me in the eye and said “It can’t be done. It’s been tried many times and it never works.”
Anyway, maybe someday…